From jop at astro.columbia.edu Wed Mar 3 05:36:58 2021 From: jop at astro.columbia.edu (Joe Patterson) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 05:36:58 -0500 Subject: (cba:news) Fwd: V1062 Tau (intermediate polar) in outburst In-Reply-To: <1000476516.40304.1614757754983@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1000476516.40304.1614757754983@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2936c58c-d9cd-6939-a657-51d633c4116f@astro.columbia.edu> Hi CBAers, Definitely worth pursuing now. We have a good 2021 campaign going anyway, so that will give a nice context for the March end-of-season data. joe -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: V1062 Tau (intermediate polar) in outburst Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 07:49:14 +0000 (UTC) From: Patrick Schmeer To: cba-news at cbastro.org CC: Joe Patterson V1062 Tauri (UG+NLDQ) Orbital period: 0.415926 d (9.9822 h) White dwarf spin period: 3726 s https://www.aavso.org/vsx/index.php?view=detail.top&oid=36079 Zwicky Transient Facility (ZTF) light curve and data: https://lasair.roe.ac.uk/object/ZTF17aadrjsu/ TAUV1062 20210227.138 17.00zg ZTF TAUV1062 20210227.217 16.18zr ZTF TAUV1062 20210303.153 15.19zr ZTF TAUV1062 20210303.191 15.57zg ZTF Recent ASAS-SN Sky Patrol (Shappee et al. 2014ApJ...788...48S and Kochanek et al. 2017PASP..129j4502K) light curve and data: https://asas-sn.osu.edu/sky-patrol/coordinate/ff32c855-5a29-4429-aea8-260eb1f7e02d TAUV1062 20210228.086 <15.57g ASN Relatively rare outburst (confirmation is required). Clear skies, Patrick ____________________________________________________________ Center for Backyard Astrophysics (CBA) mailing lists https://cbastro.org/communications/mailing-lists/ From jop at astro.columbia.edu Mon Mar 15 21:17:49 2021 From: jop at astro.columbia.edu (Joe Patterson) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 21:17:49 -0400 Subject: (cba:news) AM CVn campaign (only) Message-ID: <7a891408-4a1c-290d-75d8-2e9b2ca2941c@astro.columbia.edu> Hi CBAers, The AM CVn campaign - the main effort this month - is going well. But not much data at European longitudes; I hope the Euros will pick up the pace for a few weeks. The star is ideally placed for March-April. There are two objectives in this campaign. (1) Timing the phase of the 1028 s orbital signal. It's always invisible in the light curve - just 0.005 mag peak-to-trough - and dominated by the 1051 s ("positive") superhump, the 1011 s ("negative") superhump, and flickering. However, because the periods are so short, one can average these signals over a long time series - and thus extract the phase of the orbital signal. This is of great interest because the slow drift of orbital phase defines the rate of period change - one of the great unknowns in the theory of these pure helium stars. I attach a paper we wrote for SAS in 2019; this year, we want to upgrade it into a regular journal paper (and we will!). For this goal, VERY LONG RUNS are highly desirable. Great for March-April. (2) For goal (1), the two superhumps are noise - to be overcome! But one man's noise is another man's signal. In theory, as positive superhumps drift to longer period, negative superhumps drift to shorter period. But this has never been tested. Only two stars offer the test, because only rise winterest because The only star which reliably *offers* the test is AM CVn, because no other star reliably offers both types of superhump. For this goal, what matters is the total length of the campaign. We should definitely extend it through March-April-May. But the runs need not be particularly long; 2-3 hours is fine after the next 2-3 weeks. Info on other targets tomorrow... joe -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: amcvn-sas2019.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 572645 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ Center for Backyard Astrophysics (CBA) mailing lists https://cbastro.org/communications/mailing-lists/ From jop at astro.columbia.edu Sat Mar 20 03:42:45 2021 From: jop at astro.columbia.edu (Joe Patterson) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 03:42:45 -0400 Subject: (cba:news) AM CVn - one long St. Patrick's night Message-ID: <40c2aeec-f4a5-36b2-cacb-83b6d6f91643@astro.columbia.edu> Hi cbaers, More chat than news, but... Walt Cooney just sent a very long AM CVn time series. I wanted to show it, to illustrate how I analyze this (and nearly all) data. The original light curve is AM9291WC.TXT. Plot it up. You'll see the 8.5 minute wiggles which made this star so famous back in the 1970s. Their amplitude appears to vary through the night... and it probably does, but most of that is due to interference by the other periodic signals, which are too weak to see in isolation, but show up in a power spectrum. The main signals are: 525 s = positive (apsidal) superhump (actually a double-humped 1051 s) 1011 s = negatuve (nodal) superhump 1028 s = true orbital period Then calculate a power spectrum, or periodogram, or whatever period-finding gadget you might have available. PERANSO is a good choice. The single-night light curve does is not quite long enough to resolve the 1028 and 1011 s signals, but combining with adjacent nights makes it obvious that these are the basic periods. In our analysis (read the Skillman et al. 1999 paper on AM CVn if you're deeply interested), we typically combine data on consecutive nights to get fine frequency resolution. AM9291WC.TXT also shows a slow brightening towards the middle of the night, then fading after ~1 a.m. (meridian passage). This arises from differential extinction (AM CVn is a VERY blue star). The CV is near 2.0 airmasses at the beginning, 1.0 near meridian passage, and 1.7 as the end. If you study this a little, you'll see that the differential extinction is about 0.06 mag/airmass. If we were really diligent photometrists, we would carefully measure that and correct for it. But we're not; our typical atmospheric conditions are just not good enough to rely on such slow wiggles as being strictly due to airmass. (This was an exceptionally good night - that's why I chose it.) So my common practice is to subtract the very slow variations which are at least in part due to airmass, as well as the mean magnitude. In that way I obtain a "zeroed" light curve (AM9291WCZ.TXT). +This* (always the Z files) is what gets spliced with adjacent nights to get a really accurate value of the period. If you look at the Z file, you'll see a few wiggles that haven't been removed. Are they real, or atmospheric, or what? Who knows? Probably real; after all, this is a CV (though the least "C" and the least "V" of any such star in the sky). Anyway, these wiggles are small and irregular, so they probably won't do much damage. If you're deeply interested in such things and would like to do the analysis, I'll send you a spate of z files, and you can compute away. It's very addictive, though. JOE p.s. Don't be intimidated by the data quality here. THis was an excellent night from an excellent observer at an excellent site. 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____________________________________________________________ Center for Backyard Astrophysics (CBA) mailing lists https://cbastro.org/communications/mailing-lists/ From jop at astro.columbia.edu Sat Mar 20 10:26:55 2021 From: jop at astro.columbia.edu (Joe Patterson) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 10:26:55 -0400 Subject: (cba:news) the AM CVn dor-z file Message-ID: Oops sorry, the zeroed file (getting rid of the slow variability which may or may not be real) didn't attach. Here it is. ____________________________________________________________ Center for Backyard Astrophysics (CBA) mailing lists https://cbastro.org/communications/mailing-lists/ From jop at astro.columbia.edu Sat Mar 20 10:46:20 2021 From: jop at astro.columbia.edu (Joe Patterson) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 10:46:20 -0400 Subject: (cba:news) 3rd try Message-ID: One more try at attaching. Getting strange. ____________________________________________________________ Center for Backyard Astrophysics (CBA) mailing lists https://cbastro.org/communications/mailing-lists/ From jop at astro.columbia.edu Sat Mar 20 10:51:20 2021 From: jop at astro.columbia.edu (Joe Patterson) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 10:51:20 -0400 Subject: (cba:news) Fwd: 3rd try In-Reply-To: <472b2a6b-3d55-c6ee-83ac-25ce43fcbd7a@astro.columbia.edu> References: <472b2a6b-3d55-c6ee-83ac-25ce43fcbd7a@astro.columbia.edu> Message-ID: <4db454de-d068-e63a-33d9-ec9f4ac9dad1@astro.columbia.edu> sorry for all this fuss - over so little. let's try it another way. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: 3rd try Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 10:44:01 -0400 From: Joe Patterson To: 'Joe Patterson' ____________________________________________________________ Center for Backyard Astrophysics (CBA) mailing lists https://cbastro.org/communications/mailing-lists/ From jop at astro.columbia.edu Sat Mar 20 10:59:55 2021 From: jop at astro.columbia.edu (Joe Patterson) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 10:59:55 -0400 Subject: (cba:news) final try Message-ID: <87c6b9dc-6681-4ad1-a6cf-d062fbbef762@astro.columbia.edu> 91.6007 .005000115 91.60148 .005663872 91.60225 .01032829 91.60302 .01149178 91.6038 .01865578 91.60457 .0233202 91.60534 .01548386 91.60612 -.004851341 91.60689 -.006187439 91.60768 .01097679 91.60845 -.0003595352 91.60922 .001304627 91.61 .01146889 91.61078 .02213287 91.61155 .02079678 91.61232 -.009539604 91.61311 -.01687527 91.61388 .0002889633 91.61465 -.01404762 91.61542 .005617142 91.61619 .006780625 91.61698 .02144432 91.61775 .03310871 91.61852 -.001727104 91.6193 .008437157 91.62007 -.00289917 91.62085 .001264572 91.62162 .01192856 91.6224 .006093025 91.62317 -.000243187 91.62395 .008920669 91.62472 .01308537 91.62549 .003748894 91.62628 -.013587 91.62704 .01657677 91.62781 .01074123 91.6286 -.005595207 91.62937 -.006430626 91.63014 .02023315 91.63092 .009897232 91.6317 -.005438805 91.63247 -.02977467 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91.98352 .0005073548 91.98429 -.02026367 91.98506 -.03103447  -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ Center for Backyard Astrophysics (CBA) mailing lists https://cbastro.org/communications/mailing-lists/ From jop at astro.columbia.edu Wed Mar 24 06:48:46 2021 From: jop at astro.columbia.edu (Joe Patterson) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 06:48:46 -0400 Subject: (cba:news) YZ LMi outburst? (AM CVn+E) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK, folks, this faint and possibly crowded star is a little beyond our reach. But as an eclipsing AM CVn star, it needs a strong effort. And if it's really in outburst, then the observations get a lot easier! joe -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [vsnet-alert 25593] YZ LMi outburst? (AM CVn+E) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 08:22:15 +0900 From: Taichi Kato To: vsnet-alert at ooruri.kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp, vsnet-campaign-dn at ooruri.kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp, vsnet-outburst at ooruri.kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp YZ LMi outburst? (AM CVn+E) Normally at 19 mag. There is a bright star (SAO61493) to the north and the brightening needs to be confirmed. YYYYMMDD(UT) mag observer 20210317.3329 16.290zg (Zwicky Transient Facility Lasair (Masci+ 2019)) 20210319.2298 17.436zr (Zwicky Transient Facility Lasair (Masci+ 2019)) 20210321.2109 18.466zr (Zwicky Transient Facility Lasair (Masci+ 2019)) 20210323.2368 17.840zr (Zwicky Transient Facility Lasair (Masci+ 2019)) 20210323.3023 17.903zg (Zwicky Transient Facility Lasair (Masci+ 2019)) ____________________________________________________________ Center for Backyard Astrophysics (CBA) mailing lists https://cbastro.org/communications/mailing-lists/ From jop at astro.columbia.edu Wed Mar 24 10:37:02 2021 From: jop at astro.columbia.edu (Joe Patterson) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 10:37:02 -0400 Subject: (cba:news) stars for March /April/May Message-ID: <0df025ac-d476-10e7-6bd7-4aceb91f5c34@astro.columbia.edu> Hi CBAers, here's a more complete list of stars for (northern) spring and (southern) fall. I mostly leave out IPs since our interest in them is constant (but more casual... in that the interest is usually pulse timings, rather than really lengthy coverage). And for all stars, make allowance for the season (of course)! Southern guys: Southern ex-novae of high interest: IM Nor, V407 Lup, NR TrA. Also Nova Sco 1437 (might or might not be that remnant... but a REALLY interesting light curve). WX Cen and V617 Sgr (eclipse timings; Josch will likely cover, so these are lower prioroity). V1223 Sgr. The beat goes on. A few runs might be enough. NORTHERN GUYS. AM CVn. In 7-10 days, slack off to shorter runs. The very long runs are needed to define the timing of the ORBITAL signal, which is the big prize. The two superhumps are of bigger amplitude, and will be well-defined even with shorter runs. DQ Her. mainly for the 71-second signal. If you have a cycle time of 25 seconds or less, you can time this signal (trust me), if you S/N is half decent. But you do need somewhat long runs (3 hrs). Not too much worry about airmass (within reason). OV Boo. For the eclipse. 19th mag. Just a few more would be great. V1974 Cyg. A tad early in the season, but keep it in mind. Another one of these of 2 superhumps + orbit guys. ALL HEMISPHERES. hp lIB. We'd love to get an AM CVn- style campaign on this one, Could get close to round-the-world coverage. CI Aql. Another recurrent nova. Strangely absent from our observing lists for years. Early in season, but put it on your list for April-May. joe ____________________________________________________________ Center for Backyard Astrophysics (CBA) mailing lists https://cbastro.org/communications/mailing-lists/