From jop at astro.columbia.edu Mon Nov 13 06:10:18 2017 From: jop at astro.columbia.edu (Joe Patterson) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 06:10:18 -0500 Subject: (cba:news) V713 Cep outburst; also VZ Scl, IM Eri (no go) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <766a8811-d5e5-e853-4a65-2fdcf8e8e9a4@astro.columbia.edu> V713 Cep richly deserves observation. If in superoutburst, it's a GREAT target. If in normal outburst, it's an excellent target. And even if in quiescence, it's not too shabby either. With our recent successes* re WZ Sge and ES Cet, I've come to realize that we are in a great position to make some impactful studies of orbital-period changes. For years I didn't think so, because with our small scopes, our signal-to-noise is poor near the bottoms of typical deep eclipses (typically mag 17-20), or typical shallow eclipses (just 0.2 mag deep). Now I realize: WRONG on both counts. Even with 40-second integrations, it's easy for us to get an accuracy ~5 seconds - because integrative sampling is equivalent to instantaneous sampling, and because we commonly get very large amounts of data (say 40 eclipses per season). Plus we're there year after year. Some of the present campaigns are in part motivated by orbital-period issues (BT Mon**, X Cha, OY Car, U Gem). Two stars to discontinue coverage: VZ Scl (excellent season, but we're done) and IM Eri (analysis of last year's data suggests this star is really complicated!). joe *Success here meaning completion of a paper reporting a many-year campaign and its consequences. We have some smaller successes along the way, of course. **BT Mon is special, because its Porb = 0.3338 days. Thus its eclipses drift by only 2 minutes per day. So space out your observations of this guy. We want the full orbital light curve, not just the (very deep!) eclipse. But it's NOT a star for the usual CBA style ("hit it every night, in as dense a cluster as weather permits"). joe Beautiful planetary conjunction in tonight's morning sky! -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [vsnet-outburst 21482] V713 Cep outburst Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:17:14 +0900 From: Taichi Kato To: suuma at yahoogroups.com, variable_star_forum at yahoogroups.com, vsnet-alert at ooruri.kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp, vsnet-alert at yahoogroups.com, vsnet-campaign-dn at ooruri.kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp, vsnet-outburst at ooruri.kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp, vsnet-outburst at yahoogroups.com V713 Cep outburst Eclipsing dwarf nova below the period gap. No superoutburst has been observed. YYYYMMDD(UT) mag observer 20171030.521 <163c (Mitsutaka Hiraga) 20171108.516 <163c (Mitsutaka Hiraga) 20171112.794 158C (Jeremy Shears) ____________________________________________________________ Center for Backyard Astrophysics (CBA) mailing lists http://cbastro.org/communications/mailing-lists/ From jop at astro.columbia.edu Tue Nov 14 08:49:50 2017 From: jop at astro.columbia.edu (Joe Patterson) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 08:49:50 -0500 Subject: (cba:news) bt mon eclipses, and classical novae in general Message-ID: <8fd879de-43e0-6b81-f804-9d03805d572d@astro.columbia.edu> Enrique, David Cejudo, and Donn Starkey have obtained time series on BT Mon. The eclipses are now occurring at the end of the "night" (meaning observable interval in darkness) in Europe, and at the beginning of the night in the USA. Since the period slightly exceeds 0.33333333 d, the eclipses will creep later and later, and hence become good targets for observers at USA longitudes. Not so good for Europe, generally. HOWEVER... while eclipses are the prime motivator, we're interested in the whole orbital light curve. Based on this first look, it seems to have more bumps and features than past studies have shown. So consider it a good target at other times. And, on a grander scale... The orbital light curves of old novae are very poorly understood. Actually, probably not understood at all. The published studies are star-by-star, one to a customer, and usually based on 1-2 high-speed light curves. But erratic flickering is always present, so orbital features other than a deep eclipse are never clear from these studies. It's easy for us, since we cover many orbital cycles - maybe 50 or more (so flickering is smoothed over). Also, these light curves ought to CHANGE as the cooling of the WD proceeds. So one ought to study the light curves every few years. It's not as simple as just "outburst" and "quiescence". The *general* trend seems to be: not much variability within 3-4 mag of peak, then a small-but-growing amplitude signal emerges. That's what T Pyx showed (see out recent paper), and some others (V1494 Aql, which we're studying thoroughly for these effects). Select some seasonally- and magnitude-appropriate old novae, and see what you get. My favorites this season are V Per and QZ Aur - both eclipsers, but both quite faint. But plenty of other good ones out there (DN Gem and DM Gem are candidates; T Aur isn't - but only because we've just finished that study, thanks to Shawn, Tonny, and Jim Boardman). Beautiful result! joe ____________________________________________________________ Center for Backyard Astrophysics (CBA) mailing lists http://cbastro.org/communications/mailing-lists/ From jop at astro.columbia.edu Thu Nov 16 13:13:21 2017 From: jop at astro.columbia.edu (Joe Patterson) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:13:21 -0500 Subject: (cba:news) northern old novae Message-ID: <0b3d1689-cde4-346a-6681-c97be6890248@astro.columbia.edu> More on the "old nova" project... Enrique has obtained a week of coverage on V Per. At 18.5, it's a very challenging target. Still, some USA observers could handle it, and that would provide the longitude span that enables us to do sensitive period search. For the next 1-3 weeks, it's a very good target for the ambitious. I can see now that the orbital period is stable, which was my #1 question, but the other questions - superhumps, orbital waves, and past periods - are still up in the air. DN Gem and DM Gem are 16th magnitude old novae that are inadequately studied. Red meat for us! - especially DN since its orbital period is "known" to be pretty short (3 hours). And in the south, HZ Pup and T Pyx are good choices, having finally poked out from behind the Sun. joe ____________________________________________________________ Center for Backyard Astrophysics (CBA) mailing lists http://cbastro.org/communications/mailing-lists/ From jop at astro.columbia.edu Sat Nov 18 09:13:17 2017 From: jop at astro.columbia.edu (Joe Patterson) Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2017 09:13:17 -0500 Subject: (cba:news) FO Aquarii, keep the faith Message-ID: Hi CBAers, Some of you still have FO Aqr in your observing programs - for occasional coverage - despite the unfavorable sky location. For our time-series photometry, an equatorial star 6 hours out of season is usually a no-fly zone! But this year is different. The usual dominant signals are still present, but the mean light has been fading throughout the season. Now at 14.9, and seemingly still diving. Over the years it has averaged about 13.7, so it's not exactly a call-911 deal. Since it was comparably low early in the previous season (2016), I'd call it a "somewhat low but somewhat unstable" state. Accurate, but not real catchy. In a CV, is this *significant*? Hard to say, since most of the previous 35 years (mostly ours) used differential photometry, so the constancy of mean light over this interval is only good to around +-0.4 mag. I would have noticed anything more than that. So it's somewhat significant... but the more interesting question is, is it useful? The answer is YES. In theory, the magnetic WD spins "up" (period decreasing) when in a high-accretion state, and spins down in a low-accretion state. Of course, HOW LOW is an important and probably unanswerable question. But we do the best we can! In this case, we can track spin-up/down by studying the 21-minute signal, which is strong as ever. The fainter the star, and the longer the duration of faintness, the more convincing is this test. Northern observers are now favored, because of the long nights. Another month of coverage would be great. Our usual advice of "not more than 2.0 airmasses" doesn't quite apply here, since we're tracking a 21 minute signal. On a clear night, you can probably stretch it out to 3.0 airmasses. Beyond that, you're almost certainly in the regime of "bad data driving out the good". No one biting yet on DN Gem. This is likely to be a real winner! joe ____________________________________________________________ Center for Backyard Astrophysics (CBA) mailing lists http://cbastro.org/communications/mailing-lists/