From jop at astro.columbia.edu Fri May 4 17:16:22 2012 From: jop at astro.columbia.edu (Joe Patterson) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 17:16:22 -0400 Subject: (cba:news) ER UMa and BK Lyn In-Reply-To: <3CA5D1AC-0009-4598-AC86-D740A721A518@gmail.com> References: <3CA5D1AC-0009-4598-AC86-D740A721A518@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FA44726.8000300@astro.columbia.edu> Dear CBAers, Here's a message from Enrique, which I heartily endorse. The delicate issues of period-finding are accomplished now, due to all the diligent and global coverage. But when we want to study *stability* of these periods, we do need *some* coverage late and early in observing seasons (when the length of the time series is necessarily short). So if you're an ER UMa soldier, you can take some breaks, but squeeze in a few more runs before twilight shuts you down. Runs >2 hr, that is; below 2 hrs, the information is just too slim. Exactly the same situation applies to BK Lyn. This one is a touch more critical, though, for two reasons: 1. BK Lyn has not maintained equal popularity among CBAers; some of you are getting tired. Summon just a little more energy for the gun lap. 2. BK Lyn did a most amazing thing this year. It turned into a dwarf nova! While we have plenty of data documenting (and proving) this, a key question is: when a novalike turns into a dwarf nova, does it do so just once (and then smoothly evolve), or does it *stagger* its way? Because I believe this star to be the remnant of a 2000 year old nova, the former possibility (if true) would set the timescale for old novae to turn into dwarf novae. That number has never been known... but is it known now? Keep the faith on other targets, which are much more seasonal. And if you're covering CR Boo or V803 Cen, can you loudly announce it when these stars go into superoutburst (signified when they reach V~13 and show big superhumps)? The supers only last a couple of days, and we need to get global coverage in order to confidently parse the period structure. joe -------- Original Message -------- Return-Path: Hi Joe The latest data on ER UMa show that the latest superoutburst is over (the third well-covered this season), with ER UMa returning to quiescence ...... still flashing negative superhumps. After ~150 days of intensive coverage during 2012 it's probably time to stop our thorough follow-up on ER UMa and concentrate on other targets. Next super is expected for 5-6 June, and in the meantime, time series will get unavoidably shorter. However, I'm still interested in registering when the next super exactly starts - just to have another value of the recurrence time, so as to have further proof of the likely lengthening of the supercycle in ER UMa. For this, I would suggest stopping ER UMa coverage now, but carrying out ~2 hour early-evening time series starting by the end of May until the expected June superoutburst is observed. Enrique From jop at astro.columbia.edu Tue May 15 05:44:03 2012 From: jop at astro.columbia.edu (Joe Patterson) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 05:44:03 -0400 Subject: (cba:news) Fwd: [baavss-alert] FW: AAVSO Special Notice #281: Revised timetable for AE Aqr MAGIC observations In-Reply-To: <003701cd327b$12edc130$38c94390$@co.uk> References: <003701cd327b$12edc130$38c94390$@co.uk> Message-ID: <4FB22563.7020702@astro.columbia.edu> Dear CBAers, Let's try to help Chris with his AE Aqr observation program over the next 3 weeks. See the AAVSO Alert Notice 458 for more info. Also: Chris, feel free to advocate/inform separately in this space for the program! AE Aqr has a very rapid periodic signal (33 s), which few of you can resolve; but it also has "flares", particularly prominent in blue light... and has a slow orbital wave as well. We might well want to do a very long campaign on AE Aqr this summer, when it's better placed for earthbound telescopes. It's also time to start campaigns on V1084 Her and V795 Her - both good bright-star targets - and V503 Cyg. And some DQ Hers in the south: V1223 Sgr, FO Aqr, AO Psc. I look forward to seeing many of you in Big Bear next week! joe -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [baavss-alert] FW: AAVSO Special Notice #281: Revised timetable for AE Aqr MAGIC observations Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 10:14:04 +0100 From: Gary Poyner Reply-To: baavss-alert at yahoogroups.com To: baavss-alert AAVSO Special Notice #281 Revised timetable for AE Aqr MAGIC observations May 15, 2012 Dr. Christopher Mauche, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, has informed us that the timetable of MAGIC observations of the intermediate polar cataclysmic variable AE Aqr announced in AAVSO Alert Notice 458 has been revised. Here is the revised timetable for the dates in May and early June: 2012 May 16, 3:30 - 4:49 UT 17, 3:21 - 4:49 18, 3:17 - 4:49 19, 3:13 - 4:47 20, 3:09 - 3:53 21, 3:06 - 3:49 22, 3:02 - 3:45 23, 2:58 - 3:41 24, 2:54 - 3:37 25, 2:50 - 3:33 26, 2:46 - 3:29 27, 2:42 - 3:25 28, 2:38 - 3:21 29, 2:34 - 3:17 30, 2:25 - 3:13 31, 2:15 - 3:09 2012 June 01, 3:28 - 4:54 UT 02, 3:45 - 4:54 The later dates in June in Alert Notice 458 have not been revised as of this time. As mentioned in Alert Notice 458, B-band photometry is requested during and +/- 1 hour around the times of the MAGIC observations in order to correlate the multiwavelength observations of this campaign, and nightly observations thereafter until the end of June. Visual observations and photometry in other bands are also welcome. The 122 and 124 on the AAVSO chart for AE Aqr should be used. Please see Alert Notice 458 for additional details. Particularly in May, AAVSO observations are crucial because all but one of the ground-based observatories doing optical photometry are too far west to observe AE Aqr at this time. The MAGIC telescope is located at latitude and longitude: N 28o 45.7245 / W 017o 53.4007 If your observatory is located along or near this latitude, your observations are even more crucial, and your special attention would be gratefully appreciated. Coordinates for AE Aqr: R.A. 20 40 09.16 Dec. -00 52 15.1 (J2000.0) Charts may be created using the AAVSO Variable Star Plotter http://www.aavso.org/vsp This AAVSO Special Notice was compiled by Elizabeth O. 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Terms of Use . __,_._,___ From jop at astro.columbia.edu Wed May 30 23:05:36 2012 From: jop at astro.columbia.edu (Joe Patterson) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 23:05:36 -0400 Subject: (cba:news) SS UMi, V1974 Cyg, V503 Cyg, V4743 Sgr, V1223 Sgr In-Reply-To: <4FC6DB9D.9010505@tularosa.net> References: <4FC6CBA9.3070702@tularosa.net> <4FC6DB9D.9010505@tularosa.net> Message-ID: <4FC6E000.70903@astro.columbia.edu> Hi Tom et al., We have beautiful weather here at Kitt Peak. Second night of 10 night run. This is my last night - Helena will take all the rest, along with 2-4 Columbia students she's inculcating into the arcana of research. Our two main targets will be SS UMi (start of night) and V1974 Cyg (after midnight). So you might endeavor to get SS UMi late in your night (as I think has been your custom). It would be GREAT to get European help on SS UMi; I realize the runs will be short, but it'll help with alias issues. V503 Cyg is the other ER UMa star (in my opinion) beginning its observing season. Time to fire up on that guy with long runs. It's also dead-on perfect season for V4743 Sgr (hard, fascinating target) and V1223 Sgr (easy target - only DQ Her star secularly spinning down since discovery). I'd love to work with some data on these stars. We have a lot of students now, and will be capable of a great improvement in our conversion rate of data to scientific papers It was a great Big Bear meeting... and I'll write about it, and some changes ahead, after I get back home on Saturday. joe Oh yeah - it's FINALLY time to declare season's end for our various stars at 9 hours (RZ LMi, ER UMa, BK Lyn). Better take a lesson from Icarus. On 5/30/2012 10:46 PM, Tom Krajci wrote: > I see that the cloud is drifting south slowly...may try opening soon. > > Las Cruces is south of me...so you may see that happening in an hour or so. > > > On 5/30/2012 8:22 PM, Bill Stein wrote: >> Tom - I am under the same smoke conditions here too and I do not plan to >> observe. >> >> Bill >> Las Cruces, NM >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cba-chat-bounces at cbastro.org [mailto:cba-chat-bounces at cbastro.org] On >> Behalf Of Tom Krajci >> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:39 PM >> To: chat CBA >> Subject: (cba:chat) Astrokolkhoz - on weather hold >> >> Smoke plume from the forest fire in the Gila is over me. Sun is safe to >> look at with unaided eye...blood red. Bright moon tonight to shine on the >> smoke. Looks like wind may keep that plume over me for the rest of the >> night. Not good for taking data. (But the smoke is not at ground level, so >> it's not a local health hazard at this time.) >> >> I won't run scopes unless I'm sure that the plume will move away. I'll >> monitor for an hour or so after sunset...but not much longer because I'm >> tired from running the last few days, and repairing/troubleshooting. >> >> These smoke clouds are amazing IR filters that block most visible light. If >> I stand in the shadow of a tree, and then step out where the sun is (faintly >> visible) to my eyes...the skin on my face tells me that a strong IR source >> is blasting away. >> >> The fire is now the largest in New Mexico history, and 0% contained. >> Smoke will be generated for weeks to come. How large will it get, and what >> will stop it?...people, or monsoon rains in 6 - 8 weeks? >> >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------- >> Tom Krajci >> Cloudcroft, New Mexico >> http://picasaweb.google.com/tom.krajci >> >> Center for Backyard Astrophysics (CBA) >> https://cbastro.org/ CBA New Mexico >> >> American Association of Variable Star >> Observers (AAVSO): KTC http://www.aavso.org/ >> ------------------------------------------- >> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Center for Backyard Astrophysics (CBA) mailing lists > https://cbastro.org/communications/mailing-lists/ > From jop at astro.columbia.edu Thu May 31 17:11:08 2012 From: jop at astro.columbia.edu (Joe Patterson) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 17:11:08 -0400 Subject: (cba:news) V1084 Her, no; V503 Cyg, V1432 Aql si; plus the DQ Hers Message-ID: <4FC7DE6C.8030701@astro.columbia.edu> Dear CBAers, A few notes before starting my trip home. I've studied the V1084 Her data (mostly Tom). Flickers like crazy, but the periodic signal was invisible despite the very good quality of the data. Time to quit. Let's start the season on V503 Cyg and V1432 Aql. For the latter, an asynchronous polar, we're trying to measure the changing period of the photometric wave that signifies rotation. That will yield the timescale for synchronization - thought to be a few hundred years, but not decisively specified by observation. It takes pretty long seasonal coverage to completely rule out cycle-count ambiguities - so let's start! You probably need 3-hour time series, but there's no great advantage in going longer. The same type of program is appropriate for V503 Cyg, but of course the motivation is vastly different. It's a borderline ER UMa star, and likely to erupt in the next 2 weeks. We especially favor time series in superoutburst (positive superhump guaranteed) and quiescence (negative superhump very likely). The fast up-and-down stuff the ER UMas sometimes throw at you - usually in the range 15-16 - is of lower priority; it can be hard to extract periodic signals during these phases. In fact, it would be very good to keep a close eye on the THREE borderline ER UMa guys: V503 Cyg, SS UMi, and IX Dra - and send any detection of (super)outburst or deep quiescence to cba-chat. And it's the season for DQ Hers. Everyone observing these should become familiar with Koji Mukai's intermediate polar web-page. It lists all the stars, with lots of useful info. Pick out a nice star for your latitude and time of night, make sure it's optically bright enough (they mostly are, but check to be sure), and get a 2-3 hour light curve. Unlike our usual programs, there's no great advantage in concentrating on one star for many successive nights. Spread the wealth - the purpose here is to establish a long-term O-C, so steady light pressure on these stars is just fine. BTW add one important one to the list: RXJ1654-19. And I hope australites will nail EX Hya for a final end-of-season observation. joe