From jop at astro.columbia.edu Wed Sep 4 10:03:05 1996 From: jop at astro.columbia.edu (Joe Patterson) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:03:05 -0400 Subject: (cba:news) HO Delphini, Sensuous September Superhumper Message-ID: <199609041403.KAA09264@tristram.phys.columbia.edu> Dear CBAers, 9/4 I think What an interesting haul this morning. Good thing there's no class to prepare today. I studied Tonny and Lasse's runs on HO Del. Both show superhumps exhibiting phase, amplitude, and periods in agreement, in my opinion. They characterized the superhump amplitudes differently because Tonny was using semi-amplitudes (maybe; correct me on this) or because the shorter intergration times used by Lasse gives somewhat noisier data and the eye is drawn to "the highest of the high" and "the lowest of the low" as the points which define the amplitude range. A more reasonable definition of amplitude, for most purposes, uses the mean amplitude, which smooths over these extremes. (I think the latter is the main reason, but I did want to clarify this semi- versus full- amplitude issue. Most people use "amplitude" to mean full amplitude unless modified by "semi-".) Haven't seen any other data yet. From this 5.8 hour run I obtained a period of 91.9+-1.8 min, in agreement with Tonny's estimate. Formally this error estimate is sufficient to beat down the 24-hr alias, but the formal error estimate is often not too useful in these humpy-jumpy stars. Timings from other longitudes are really what's needed to nail it down. And a 3-4 day baseline is needed to give enough accuracy to adequately define the superhump period excess. Tonny and Lasse's data have 2 hours of overlap, enabling me to splice them. I notice that Tonny's differential measures give the same result as Lasse's absolute numbers if it is assumed that they used the same comp star with a "CBA-magnitude" of 12.66. Probably they both used the "12.8" GSC star (right?). Anyway, the point I wanted to make is that this is how I like to cross-calibrate the data. Some of you have asked that I supply "official" comp stars; and we sometimes do that, where we are very concerned about accuracy or about wild variability (e.g. CR Boo in most years). But my preference is for after-the-fact calibration, because: * It's less authoritarian! * Filterless operation with different CCDs gives quite different responses, and generally the assumption that the star's mean is the same is superior to assuming any such thing about the data itself. * Because of different saturation levels, fields of view, and observing procedures, people have different preferred comp stars. * We are period hunters, and some of our targets evolve rapidly. If we were hunting rhinoceroses, I think no one would propose extensive debates on the color of the rhinoceros while it was in full charge. I'll attach the spliced CBA-Low-Countries light curve (I condensed Lasse's data by a factor of two so the integration times would be comparable). t(geo) versus delta mag (Var-Comp) 329.3466 1.28 329.3483 1.3 329.35 1.3 329.3518 1.32 329.352 1.265 329.3535 1.34 329.3548 1.29 329.3553 1.38 329.357 1.38 329.3576 1.335 329.3587 1.36 329.3605 1.33 329.3622 1.40 329.3631 1.38 329.3659 1.43 329.3726 1.35 329.3743 1.35 329.3761 1.36 329.377 1.35 329.3798 1.435 329.3813 1.36 329.3826 1.405 329.383 1.35 329.3848 1.4 329.3868 1.365 329.3882 1.37 329.39 1.35 329.3909 1.38 329.3917 1.32 329.3934 1.34 329.3944 1.38 329.3952 1.34 329.3969 1.28 329.3979 1.24 329.4006 1.285 329.4034 1.2 329.4056 1.29 329.4062 1.27 329.409 1.29 329.4108 1.29 329.4118 1.27 329.4125 1.31 329.4143 1.31 329.4152 1.28 329.416 1.3 329.4177 1.32 329.4187 1.295 329.4195 1.29 329.4212 1.34 329.4215 1.37 329.4229 1.36 329.4243 1.405 329.4247 1.39 329.427 1.41 329.4298 1.475 329.4326 1.33 329.4354 1.395 329.4368 1.39 329.4395 1.4 329.4423 1.4 329.4451 1.4 329.4472 1.39 329.4559 1.33 329.4611 1.26 329.4628 1.28 329.4646 1.25 329.4681 1.3 329.4733 1.32 329.4767 1.33 329.4785 1.3 329.4802 1.32 329.4854 1.32 329.4872 1.33 329.4889 1.34 329.4906 1.32 329.4924 1.34 329.4941 1.4 329.4958 1.39 329.4976 1.4 329.4993 1.39 329.501 1.43 329.5027 1.39 329.5044 1.36 329.5061 1.39 329.5078 1.44 329.5094 1.42 329.5111 1.45 329.5128 1.42 329.5145 1.41 329.5162 1.41 329.5179 1.44 329.5195 1.41 329.5212 1.45 329.5229 1.36 329.5246 1.35 329.5263 1.32 329.528 1.32 329.5297 1.32 329.5314 1.27 329.533 1.28 329.5347 1.31 329.5364 1.32 329.5381 1.38 329.5398 1.34 329.5415 1.35 329.5432 1.35 329.5448 1.41 329.5465 1.4 329.5482 1.36 329.5499 1.36 329.5516 1.41 329.5533 1.43 329.555 1.44 329.5568 1.4 329.5585 1.36 329.5602 1.41 329.562 1.46 329.5637 1.45 329.5654 1.44 329.5672 1.42 329.5689 1.41 329.5706 1.4 329.5724 1.44 Graph it up, it's a winner.